[LIT] Running records for middle school

[Pam Horton]

I was a Reading Recovery teacher for many years before I moved to the middle school---In my experience with middle school readers I've noticed that a lot of the reason that running records don't give as much information about older kids is that much of their processing happens inside their heads and they often don't verbalize some of the actual corrections they make while reading---for example---if a student miscues while reading orally they most often make the correction inside their head and there's no intereference with their comprehension, but as the person taking the running record we don't actually hear the correction and then can't note it on the text.  There are lots of other types of "under ground" processing that occur in older kids that they just don't verbalize.  It's necessary to have conversations about text in order to uncover thinking and strategy use it's not on the surface like it is with younger readers.

>>> "Heather Poland" <hpoland at gmail.com> 7/7/2006 4:49 PM >>>
Yes, I also have my Multiple Subjects credential and took the RICA. I am
going to ask for further explanation as to why Marie Clay said Running
Record is only for primary, but I bet it is because there is no
comprehension and also because older readers read to themselves.

But I do think that it is a good idea to have all English teachers be
reading teachers, especially at the middle level. I know I feel way more
comfortable teaching kids how to than many of my collegues who have a single
subject credential. They are focused more on teaching certain novels, not
how to read the text.

On 7/7/06, Chris Knoblaugh <chrisk3001us at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I wish the following were true, Heather.  I will be
> teaching _Language!_ next year.  It is a
> phonics/phonetics based program for kids who don't
> know how to read REGARDLESS of the age group.  It will
> be used with kids all the way up to seniors in high
> school, and one key aspect of it is a Running Record.
>
> Teachers at our local high school are freaking out
> because they never had to take Linguistics in their
> single subject programs.  Now they are going to have
> to teach things like spelling rules and fricatives.
> Some of them are having to go back to take Linguistics
> this summer. :-(
>
> I had to pass the RICA here in California in order to
> get my multiple, so Linguistics as well as Reading 1
> and 2 credentialing classes were required.
>
> --- Heather Poland <hpoland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In my class I'm taking, what I read said that the
> > pure Running Record (as in
> > Marie Clay's Running Record) should only be done
> > with primary students.
>
>
>
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